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PostSubject: Also new member   Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:06 pm

Hello all, I live in Powhatan, Va, I just got into the hobby, i have just a couple of tanks, specifically with freshwater tropicals. Recently my sunburst platy had fry which i am keeping in a refugium attached to main tank, I am currently looking for a plant fertilizer that would have all nutrients needed , not just one nutrient, any suggestions? It can be liquid , capsule or tablet, just let me know if you have any ideas, Thanks, its a pleasure meeting you all!!
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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:46 pm

Welcome, oneway!  
We are glad  Very Happy  to have you join us here on CVAS.  Our online forum is outstanding for its friendliness and practical helpfulness, and our meetings every other month afford the hobbyist a chance to meet and trade goods with other members.  
Our next meeting is in May, so keep your eyes open for more details.  

As for fertilizers - potassium, calcium, and iron are the main elements to look for when choosing an all-around fert.  Flourish Comprehensive (SeaChem) is a pretty good liquid fertilizer and may be a good choice for you.  Flourish TABS are highly recommended by many who have tried them.  

Diana Walstad, a planted tank "guru," writes in The Planted Tank forum about how to use dry ferts:

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The bottle of Flourish that lists small amounts of many minerals is trace minerals. Probably does not have enough iron, but everything else is there. Flourish Trace is almost clear, Flourish Comprehensive is dark brown.

www.aquariumfertilizer.com is a good source.

I dose this way
Macros:
KNO3 (Only certain tanks where the plants remove all the NO3)
KH2PO4 (small amount)
K2SO4 (lots)

Micros:
CSM+B (Equivalent of Flourish Trace or Comprehensive)
Chelated Iron

I would suggest starting with a pound of each (or whatever is the smallest amount- I think some are sold in half pound bags) except do not gett he CSM+B at this point. Use up the Flourish product you have on hand.

Iron is not a problem for shrimp, but copper can be. Do not overdose any fertilizer with copper, just follow the directions. This will not be an overdose unless your water is already high in copper.
 

Other members here will have their own input on this complicated topic; in many cases it's a matter of trying different things and finding what works for you.
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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:14 pm

Thank you Deb, I will look for the seachem comprehensive.
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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:53 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:28 pm

Thank you verbal!! Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Sat Apr 05, 2014 8:56 am

Oneway, Flourish Comprehensive comes in a bottle and - depending how much you use and how often - might get expensive, longterm.  That explains the discussion above, which I quoted, about dry ferts.  A lot of planted tank folks go to the dry after a while of keeping planted tanks, because buying bulk dry is cheaper.  

How much and what you use will depend also on the type of plants you are growing, i.e., fast-growing, slow-growing, stem plants, crown plants, floating plants, plants with a rhizome, etc.    

You might want to read some in our Planted Tanks forum.  There are fertilizer discussions under Getting Started and Discuss Plants, and of course you can start your own conversation with your specific questions.  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Sat Apr 05, 2014 9:23 am

Hello Deb, i was able to find the flourish comprehensive for around 17.00 which isnt too bad,because it included shipping, but i will go over the articles in the forum as well, I have a wide variety of plants, ( maybe too many, lol) anubis, swords, java moss, hornwort, wisteria and others mainly the ones that are easy to grow. Thanks again
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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:04 pm

Welcome to CVAS and the forum... Hello 

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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:42 pm

Thank you JohnnyAMH
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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Sat Apr 05, 2014 12:58 pm

Welcome Chris M. Hope your enjoying the Forum. I like your idea of keeping the new fry in your refugium. Looks like your on a good plan with the Flourish. I hope your Platy fry do well in there. Certainly a good safe place. Make sure to post pics as the project goes on. We've got a few Platy breeders on the Forum so I'm sure they would love to hear and see what's working and how your success has been too.
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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Sat Apr 05, 2014 1:55 pm

Thanks Ron, I will update pics soon
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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Sun Apr 06, 2014 11:59 pm

Welcome Chris!

Agree with Deb, flourish comprehensive is a good product and if you decide to stay with Fertz eventually you will look to the dry products to save money and provide greater options and better control of your fertilization based on the specific needs of your plants.

For your swords you will need root tabs, I've had great success with the oscomote tabs found on ebay, they are like $5.00 for 30 - way less than the major label brands.

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PostSubject: Re: Also new member   Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:58 am

I will look into that, thank you  Very Happy 
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