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PostSubject: Odd question for everyone.   Sun May 15, 2016 6:28 pm

Ok so my question is. Are the small black ants people get in their kitchen bad for fish to eat if they make a nest under you AC HOB filter and in the process of getting rid of them a bunch fall into the tank and they eat the ants, new born ants and eggs. Or is just a day that I don't need to feed the fish?
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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Mon May 16, 2016 7:40 am

I would think as long as you have not used any chemicals to treat the ant problem you should be fine.
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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Mon May 16, 2016 2:10 pm

I have to assume that ants are a wonderful and natural source of food for fish as long as no chemicals/pesticides have been introduced. Ant eggs in particular seem like a gourmet meal for fish who desperately need more natural protein rich food.

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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Mon May 16, 2016 3:34 pm

Yeah, I think they're fine, especially if the fish willingly eat them. Fish seem to know which critters to eat and which ones not to. Second that about the ant eggs, @ddavis1979!

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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Mon May 16, 2016 7:13 pm

Everyone seems to still be swimming and my angels just spawned this afternoon .
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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Mon May 16, 2016 8:08 pm

Mmmmm.  Protein.  (And, oh yeah, folic acid. This is from a Minnesota fly Fisherman's web log: "Why do the fish love the ants?  Two words...FOLIC ACID. The ants have it and the trout know it. Folic acid is potent stuff...kind of a mixture of Viagra, LSD, Geritol, and Peyote all rolled into one...WHAT TROUT IN IT'S RIGHT MIND WOULDN'T WANT SOME OF THAT?"

Of course, no fish I've ever owned has gone for bug-chow.
And I've had both ants and fruit flies fall into tanks and drown unmolested.

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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Mon May 16, 2016 8:37 pm

@Pat C that is great info! Since my peonies are coming into bloom they'll be covered in ants, as anyone who has grown them knows. It is said that once the bloom opens the ants leave, but that's not been my experience, so I always have to turn the heavy blossoms upside down in a bucket of water outside, shake and shake, etc. to get the ants out. There are always ants deep inside these dense flowers, and they're crawling on my counter at some point. Not a huge problem like house ants, but still....

Now I can float the blooms in my big tanks, lol! Chow down (I hope), fishes.

Now, as for house ants. liquid Terro is what you need. It takes a while, and you have to keep putting it out as the ants eat it up and take it back to the nest, but if you are patient (I am NOT known for this) the queen will die and that will be that. I have tried all kinds of other insecticides, hating to use them indoors but hating the spring ants, and Terro (boric acid in a sweet attractant) is non toxic and works, but you do need to allow them to continue to feed on the stuff. You can also sprinkle boric acid (Mule Team Borax) where they are and they'll walk through it and carry it back to the nest passively, but this way they actually bring it back to the nest as food.

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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Tue May 17, 2016 8:03 pm

@Pat C wrote:
The ants have it and the trout know it. Folic acid is potent stuff...kind of a mixture of Viagra, LSD, Geritol, and Peyote all rolled into one...Pat

I'm going to eat the next ant I see.......
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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Mon May 23, 2016 8:22 am

Well I had to remove a ant colony from that same location again Saturday when i went to do my weekly WC. But I will say this, the fish knew what the ants were this time around. they were hitting the top of the water hard to get the ants and eggs. I could hear the fish doing it from across the room and the cories had a field day with the ones that hit the bottom of the tank. the last time it took a while for them to start eating the ants and eggs. Not this time.
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PostSubject: Re: Odd question for everyone.   Mon May 23, 2016 12:12 pm

Not sure where Minnesota Fly Fisherman gets his info, but i think he may be confusing FOLIC acid (from plants) with FORMIC acid (which most ants do contain).
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