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PostSubject: does my hap flameback have ich?   Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:58 am

i have a 3 to 4 inch hap flam back i noticed his bottom fin had a couple of spots that look like bleach spots and the top fin also has 2 spots but also hast 2 tiny fur balls so i took the fish out and put in a tiny fish bowl i found with a heater and air stone and put ich medicine no problems with the 8 other fish in my 125 gal tank is this a good idea to quarintine the fish or should i just take the charcol out of filters and put medicine in the whole tank i have no signs of any issues with other fish and i even had some eggs dropped by some jeweld cichlids i threw in there

i had this problem before and i lost a 7 inch jack demp male that i had and almost lost the female an advice would really help ? its in a tiny bowl now but when i get home i plan on cleaning out a large ice chest and put him in that

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:23 am

the best way i can describe ich is it looks like you sprinkled salt or sugar on your fish, from what your describing it doesnt sound like ich but i would suggest getting something that cures many types of fish diseases, an API product preferrably or any other well known brand, dont skimp on treatments because this could be what saves your fish! Smile
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:42 am

thanks i have something that you are describing it starts with a M cant think of what it is called at the moment( at work hehe) do you think its ok to just quarintine that 1 fish or should i treat the whole 125 gal tank?

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:49 am

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thanks i have something that you are describing it starts with a M cant think of what it is called at the moment( at work hehe) do you think its ok to just quarintine that 1 fish or should i treat the whole 125 gal tank?
You can take your chances with hoping none of the other fish have been exposed or treat the whole tank. If you suspect ich use the salt and heat method unless you have live plants in your tank.
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Mon Jun 18, 2012 10:55 am

thanks i forgot to mention that i have added salt and raised to the temp from the looks of things im goona just knuckle up and do the work if i want great and healthy fish i goot do the work just like i teach my kids for school want good grades then do the work LOL thanks

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:46 pm

Like flippercon said, if you want to take that chance and hope all your other fish are alright, then just quarentine the one, but sometimes symptoms dont show until 2 or 3 days later so if you're trying to play it safe and ensure the well being of all your fish, treat the whole tank
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Tue Jun 19, 2012 8:38 am

last night i used a medicine that was blue in color (cant think of name off the top of my head at work) i wanted to use this stuff Aquarium Pharmaceuticals Mela Fix( link to prduct discription http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2754040)

so this morning i wake up and one of my haps was dead and my rapheal catfish also i didnt get to see wich hap my wife noticed it when i was in the shower getting ready for work and she disposed of them she did say my catfish had a blooted belly

last night after i removed the charcol from the filters ( directions told me to do this) I gravel vaccumed and did a 25 % water change and put medicine in i use the test stripes so i couldnt give you number readings of my water but it all read fine but a little high in nitrates i raised the temp and added salt also

i reserched for the last hour or so and its started to look like is a fungus i will be researching the rest of the day and hopefully i dont lose any more fish

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:55 pm

I'm so sorry you're having this trouble Crying or Very sad

It does sound like you have some type of fungal outbreak, but ultimately the cure for these types of ailments is going to be a dedicated PWC regimen. Keeping the tank clean and the nitrates down is your best bet to cure it (along with meds when necessary) and to prevent it in the future.

When the nitrates are higher and there are more dissolved organics in the water it tends to lower the immune system of the fish and make them susceptible to coming down with ailments.

Best of luck, and please keep us posted!

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Tue Jun 19, 2012 1:57 pm

Thanks Liz,

I have decided i will be using pima-fix and mela-fix regement for the symptons they have and the reviews i have read for the proucts this should work ( fingers crossed) I will keep you up-dated

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Tue Jun 19, 2012 6:38 pm

well melafix is a miracle worker, so hopefully you have good results Smile let us know
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:21 am

UPDATE:

when i got home from work i had another dead fish scratch his stomach was blooded like the catfish scratch so i put the pima-fix and mela-fix in so i woke up this morning and my remaining are still alive Laughing

i will see how they are when i get home but they did look more active this morning then they did since this issue has began

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:36 am

UPDATE:

ALL my fish passed awya last night Nah just playin all are very healthy and well i just added the carbon back in filters last night the pima-flix and mela-flix did a great job

my fry are growing and doing well I thought they would of died they hatched right when my fish where dying hope things continue to do well

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:44 am

That sux man. Any way you can post some pictures?
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:47 am

of them healthy? I can take some tonight but they are healthy and fine hope you caught the joke

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:05 pm

Oh yea look at that. I knew that :afro:

I was reading through and fell back into brainstorm mode on what it might be and missed the part about everything being good. Any positive I.D's on what it was?
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:10 pm

alls i really no is that it was a white fuzz from my reaearch it was basiccly some type of fungus

it was a white fuzz and one piece had a white fuzz base and string like substance comeing off of it with a white fuzz ball at the end but after doing the meds it went away but i lost 3 fish to it wich i thought was weird cause the had no fuzz just bloated bellys i never found out what caused that

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 12:19 pm

...and yea pics are always welcome. I'm trying to commit cichlids to memory. So with as many as there are its going to be a repetition thing so every "exposure" counts. I'm really digging what are called "Neochromis rufocaudalis "Saa Nane", which if Im not mistaken kind of look similar to the flamebacks. If you find the right male the colors are insane. Anyways, I'm glad your guys are back on track. - Nereus
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:17 pm

Hey man, I was doing some snooping and I came up with "cotton wool" disease and malawi bloat. Both are thought to be caused by dirty water, (high nitrates) and poor food quality. I read in a different post that your people sometimes slip in extra food when you're not looking so maybe some food goes in and falls under a rock.... your buddies find it later etc... I know in my tank, I'll drop some food in, and they'll swarm it and see me move, and run...basicly shooting the food everywhere.

I'm a cichlid rookie but, food for thought, you may want too look into this, it may have been the cause. Like I said earlier tho, I'm glad your guys are back on track Smile
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:44 am

Thanks I had a talk to my girls last night about them putting in food so it should be handled thanks for the info

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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Thu Jun 28, 2012 3:04 pm

Hope I didn't get anyone in trouble Shocked

Another angle, when I had someone "tank-sitting" for me I made sure to make the point of "no wet fingers in the fish food containers". That could kick off some type of fungus etc. also. - Nereus
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PostSubject: Re: does my hap flameback have ich?   Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:17 am

nah no one got in trouble Cool but this morning i found another fish floating but no signs of illnes or bloated belly i didnt notice any fin problems either it was just stiff i lost a jack demp like this before but it was when i introduced new fish i have not introduced any new fish so i am stumped I do have red jeweld fry in there and parents are very prtoective to it may have to do with that

they will not allow any fish pat the half way point of the tank my water is clear i did not have a chance to test my water so i wont have any answer till tonight the fish was called chilotalapia i think i got it from cichlid solutions about 2 weeks ago this is the 3rd or 4th fish i have lost maybe even the 5th

im a little stumped but i will figure it out

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