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PostSubject: Cycle status   Tue Oct 23, 2012 6:25 pm

I think I know the answer to me question, but I want to ask anyway...

After starting the new tank, for the 1st week i had zero ammonia/nitrite/nitrate

2nd week, I had 2ppm ammonia/zero nitrite/nitrate

now at 2.5 weeks I have 1ppm ammonia/2ppm nitrite/20ppm nitrate.

I know I should do a water change, but my water adds ammonia at 2ppm.

Is the cycle following a normal pattern?

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Tue Oct 23, 2012 9:35 pm

the presence of nitrite means you are well on your way to cultivating nitrifying bacteria, the presence of ammonia means you are not quite there yet. In short this is a normal cycle pattern.

Nitrifiers take the longest to cultivate and stabalize, Have you gotten the infamus bacteria bloom cloud yet? if not you will know what i mean when it happens.
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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:42 am

THe water is looking a little cloudy.

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Wed Oct 24, 2012 9:46 am

Looks like you are right on track. Use dechlor that eliminates chloramines and it will take the tap water ammonia situation out of the picture.

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Wed Oct 24, 2012 8:07 pm

ammonia is at .5ppm and nitrates at 5ppm, I am going to risk a water change

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:03 am

OK so I did my 30% water change last night and waited 12 hours and tested this morning.
Did a double dose of Prime during the water change.

Good news - Ammonia is under control and holding at .5ppm

Bad news - Nitrites are out of control, still over 5ppm.

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:33 pm

Tank is still cycling. Keep following dosage instructions on your bio boost. Make sure to also add declorinator when adding/changing water. Very important to keep adding bio boost as instructed for new tank setup. Directions change a little depending upon brand used. I would take advantage of the offers you were made for used media. This will speed up significantly the cycling process. I had these same issues when I started my 90 and used some used filter media from a cycled tank which licked my problem in about a week. Your on your way but keep a close eye on process, especially with fish in the tank. Don't add anymore fish though until you get balanced properly. If you do your likely to see a spike in tank again, but more importantly sicken or kill your pets.

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Thu Oct 25, 2012 5:47 pm

Looks good to me.... what about your nitrates - have they increased?...

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:56 pm

OK, status update and time for some questions...

Nitrates have gone to 40ppm and seem to be holding steady there.

Last night I did a 30% water change. This evening I tested the water again, and I had ammonia between 0 and .25, awesome! Then I tested nitrites.

The liquid nitrite test showed 3ppm, but the test dip strip showed between 5 and 10 ppm. One of the black neons started dying in a dramatic way, and most of the other fish look like they are gasping water.

Question #1 - Do I attempt another water change with double dose of prime or am I hurting my cycling?

Question #2 - If all fish die in the tank due to suffocation from nitrites, should I take efforts to continue to indroduce ammonia into the tank to keep the bacteria that feeds on that going? If so, what is recommended? Is adding tap water with chloramines enough? Do I need to buy some ammonia? Should I get 5 $0.35 feeder gold fish to drop in there until cycle is finished?

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Thu Nov 01, 2012 7:05 pm

Are you cycled? looking forward to good news.
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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:02 pm

@ddavis1979 wrote:
OK, status update and time for some questions...

Nitrates have gone to 40ppm and seem to be holding steady there.

Last night I did a 30% water change. This evening I tested the water again, and I had ammonia between 0 and .25, awesome! Then I tested nitrites.

The liquid nitrite test showed 3ppm, but the test dip strip showed between 5 and 10 ppm. One of the black neons started dying in a dramatic way, and most of the other fish look like they are gasping water.

Question #1 - Do I attempt another water change with double dose of prime or am I hurting my cycling?

Question #2 - If all fish die in the tank due to suffocation from nitrites, should I take efforts to continue to indroduce ammonia into the tank to keep the bacteria that feeds on that going? If so, what is recommended? Is adding tap water with chloramines enough? Do I need to buy some ammonia? Should I get 5 $0.35 feeder gold fish to drop in there until cycle is finished?
1. Yes water changes are a must if you are doing a fish in cycle. It is important because your tank is not established and the cycling process will cause your tank to crash (ph). Do water changes every day and test before the water change. The double dose of prime will help aid your fish in this process. I would do 50% daily to remove the toxins a bit more.

2. You can just put food in the tank to keep it cycling. I would not bother testing Nitrates while ammonia and nitrites are present in your tests. The nitrate readings will not be consistent enough. Once you see the nitrites drop to zero, test your nitrates. This will save you money in the end and confirm the cycle is complete.
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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:07 am

Thanks flippercon.

Update:
I am not sure I fully understand what is going on, but I am doing 40%-50% water changes every two to three days, and the nitrites have not budged yet and its been about a week. The ammonia remains at zero, even with large water changes (I have ammonia in my tap) so that is great. However, given the toxicity of nitrites and that fish are stressed even at 1ppm, the tank has been 7-8days with 5+ ppm and I have had zero casualties. Not even showing signs of stress. Just odd I thought.

I will continue with water changes and testing, and hope that it finishes the cycle soon.

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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:06 am

The nitrite stage of a cycle can take up to 3 weeks. Keeping your levels below
4ppm will speed this up. I strongly suggest daily water changes . You are in the home stretch, keep up on water changes and testing and it will be over before you know it.
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PostSubject: Re: Cycle status   Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:16 pm

Ich is gone....ammonia zero....nitrite zero.....nitrate 20....GREAT SUCCESS!

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