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PostSubject: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Thu Oct 25, 2012 1:00 pm

Found a pit with eggs from the electric blue rams Yesterday morning, the female has been keeping a close eye on them, keeping my fingers crossed hope to see some wigglers by tonight or tomorrow.

Also noticing my pair of GBR's digging and dancing waiting to see eggs from them shortly as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Thu Oct 25, 2012 2:14 pm

Great news. Hope your a Popa soon

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:09 pm

Bad news already, after dinner i took a look at the tanks and found they were gone. Not sure if he/she would have moved them or ate them.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Thu Oct 25, 2012 6:52 pm

I spoke to soon, they moved the eggs all the way to the back right corner, PHEWWW
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Thu Oct 25, 2012 7:05 pm

Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Thu Oct 25, 2012 8:21 pm

That's a relief! It will be interesting to see what they do next.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:19 pm

GOT WIGGLERS WHOOO HOOO! and she has moved them a second time lol now there in the back left hand corner. Now waiting for free swimmers.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Fri Oct 26, 2012 8:28 pm

Get the Baby Brine Shrimp Hatcheries fired up!!!!!

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:23 am

Too Cool!
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:27 pm

I wonder if EBRams can live in harmony with Apistogramma? Would they compete for bottom resources?

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:58 pm

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I wonder if EBRams can live in harmony with Apistogramma? Would they compete for bottom resources?

probably would need a 4' tank, I have never kept them together but i do know that apistos are far more aggressive than the rams. GBR and EBR rams by far the most peacful cichlid i have ever kept.

The EBR rams are frees swimming now, checkem out.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Mon Oct 29, 2012 6:54 pm

@Deb wrote:
I wonder if EBRams can live in harmony with Apistogramma? Would they compete for bottom resources?

I agree with Lean; with a 4" tank..... and Deb's planting skills...... I think the species could live in harmony (unless they breed of course).

But my bigger concern would be the difference in temperature ranges needed for each species.

Most Apistogramma enjoy and thrive in mid 70's whereas Rams enjoy the 80's and in my experience Rams are pretty sensitive to needing those temps.

Not saying it couldn't work, but the temperatures ranges are different.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:12 am

awesome to see the free swimming fry Smile

If mixing rams and apistos, I would pick an apisto that wasn't aggressive and would be happy at higher temps. Also I agree a 4 foot long of 36" by 18" tank would be a good idea. That being said, I think you could mix them for growing out, but I would grow the electric blue rams by themselves.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Tue Oct 30, 2012 11:59 am

Leanback, what temp are you keeping the EB Rams' tank at?

I wondered what everyone thought about mixing the rams and certain Apistos because I had read accounts of the two living in the same tank harmoniously. The Apistos used the caves, and the rams used the flat tops of the rocks which formed the caves. There was more to it than that, but the gist was that they were fine together with a lot of plants and the division of the rockwork. I thought it was interesting.

Lean's EBR's are very pretty, so it makes me think.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:02 pm

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Leanback, what temp are you keeping the EB Rams' tank at?

I am keeping the temps at 82degrees, the rams seem happy at this temp.

a 55g/40b tank with angels, apistos, rams and some sweet looking corys that would be an awesome tank.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:09 pm

Got home late tonight and found only a few swimmers in the tank down from 20 to about 8, i didnt feed the parents due to the storm and possible power outtage they must have gotten hungry.

but on the good side my GBR fry are free swimming now and there are about 30 of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Tue Oct 30, 2012 9:27 pm

Hopefully you can keep the rest of them going. The GBR situation sounds great.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:12 am

@Leanback wrote:
Got home late tonight and found only a few swimmers in the tank down from 20 to about 8, i didnt feed the parents due to the storm and possible power outtage they must have gotten hungry.
That could be it, but also don't the fry have to be fed about five or six times a day?

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:35 am

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That could be it, but also don't the fry have to be fed about five or six times a day?


they forgae most of the day in the plant roots and the sponge filter so they are eating even when i wasnt feeding so i could keep up good water quality if the power went out. I only feed 3 times a day.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Wed Oct 31, 2012 3:08 pm

the wife only found 2 swimmers today she was able to catch one, its now in a breeders net. She also caught the GBR male eating their swimmers so she rescued about 20 of them in a breeders net.

I hate using breeder nets and would love to have the parents raise the fry. I am wondering if i should use alot java moss or naja grass in these tanks and if that would increase fry survival.
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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:33 pm

I've had spawns of fry where I made no effort to encourage the breeding behavior and one day see small C. pandas or Apistos appear out of no where and start feeding with the adults. The common denominator was lots of java moss in the aquariums.

Sorry, I can be a rambling windbag sometimes. "Yeah java moss and/or nagas grass are good idea."

Good grief.

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PostSubject: Re: Electric Blue Ram Eggs   Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:55 pm

I concur on the Java Moss, a must for fry in my opnion.

If this is a young set of parents it may take dad a few tries to learn to be a good dad Smile

No worries, you have parents which have successfully brought fry to the free swimming stage - GREAT work by you - you are providing what they need!

They will spawn again .....and eventually get it down... which means you will receive the enjoyment and satisfaction of watching both parents raise their babies.

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